Re: Definitive Washboard Protocols
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Posted by Zardoz
on July 09, 2003 at 11:07:02:
In Reply to: Re: Definitive Washboard Protocols posted by Bodie the Dog on July 08, 2003 at 13:09:06:
A bunch of us spend about 4 to 5 weeks a year in various desert places. We collected the data regarding tire problems over the last ten years. We came up with the following non-scientific conclusions. Go fast over the rock roads (Saline Valley for example) and tires do seems to have problems more often than people with like tires driving slow. People who had 3/4 ton trucks with 8 ply rated tires seem to have no problems compared to your standard C load rated tires. Airing up and down seems to make the vehicle ride better but not enough data to determine how this effects tire reliability. We usually are taking stuff in for a week long stay so we tend to be heavy and we can't lower the air pressure enough to get a good ride and support the weight carried on the rear tires. If you ask me for my opinion I think low air pressure is easier on tires over rock bumps and such but if you hit that real pointy rock that is sticking out I think you are toast no matter what you do. After my experience with a Nissan 4x4 hardbody truck with a 4 wheel camper on it I noticed a much higher failure rate on the rear tires due to rocks putting big holes in the tires. Other people seem to have problems when loaded with rear tires. Most of us run BFG AT 10.50/31/15 C rated. Heavy load on rear tires (some more than others) seems to increase failure rate. None of us has ever had a failure on the front axle. When I bought my new Nissan S/C Frontier it came with stupid 17" rims. I was able to trade some Xterra 16' rims and tried to decide what to do for new tires. I went to my local tire shop and compared costs, weight, and capabilities. It seems in the BFG AT KO line that the 265/70/16 was the right size for my rig but my dealer showed me some 245/75/16 E rated units. I compared the weight and thickness of rubber and the E rated tire was cheaper and much more rugged than the 265 C/D rated tire. The E rated units do ride rougher than the C units but it is a truck and I do not care but some might. Well I have made a couple of trips and no problems so far. I also put Bilsteins on my rig and that helped alot on the washboard after the shocks loosened up a little. (Bilsteins are extremely stiff when new but last forever). Yep between the tires and shocks it does ride a little rougher over the expansion joints in the road but to me it is an acceptable trade off for more rugged tires and better performance on washboards. While the E rated tires are about 3/4" narrower I have not missed the width at all. Comments?? Zardoz
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